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EllenxJamie (Pokemon): Not related at all to my ficseries. Just something involving Ellen (Blue) and Jamie (Gold), but more focused on Ellen. Can become whatever it wants, but will at least involve Ellen getting her breasts and butt expanded. She might also somehow lose her clothes in front of Jamie, much to her embarrassment and his arousal.

(Jake had, only months ago, decided to write an embarrassment fic about Candice, and I did help him with that one. So far, I still have yet to help him come up with some kind of prologue for that fic.)

The Furrysitter's Club (Sonic the Hedgehog): First off, I already have four chapters written for this fic. If you're interested, here it is.

Right now, I'd like to come up with a situation where all five girls' noses inflate to the size and shape of balloons. Inconveniently, their supply of diapers runs out, and the babies are temporarily stuck wearing dirty ones. Big noses = enhanced sense of smell. Four babies and five sitters means that only one is free to go out and buy diapers. Does being out in public with a big nose sound embarrassing? It is!

(Just months ago, Jake did help me come up with a fic where Rouge gets her nose expanded. I am grateful for that, and I might still get around to writing it, but I would still like to create a situation for Amy, Cream, Lady Vanilla, and Tiara as well. As to how this happens, the best idea I've got so far is that the girls go to Tails' workshop and see if anything there can return the boys to their normal ages.)

SMW2: Yoshi's Island rewritten (Jake's version): Unlike in my version, Jake is planning for Joe to be a recurring mini-boss for the first two worlds. I did suggest that he appear wherever there's canonically a mid-level ring, but he rejected that for whatever reason, and would rather I just came up with some spots for him to appear on my own. In any case, the first of these would be that alcove towards the end of 1-3 (The Cave of Chomp Rock) where you collect the last bonus flower. Right on the slope leading outside the cave, the Chomp Rock there would roll backwards. Joe would reach down and help Mai climb up, and Mai would use the oncoming rock to prop herself up to the ledge. This is where their first fight could take place.

My first Ultimate Girls fic: Just an idea of what the last Kaiju would be. Think of him as an evil version of the original UFO-Man. Clad in dark gray spandex (UFO-Man wore red), wears an evil-looking mask (no mouth, angry eyes), and complete with horns and clawed hands. His core is a crystal ball located at his crotch. Like the Girls, this guy's spandex does disappear, but at a much slower rate. He is also mostly emotionless (save for his lust for Vivienne), which means that embarrassment is irrelevant to him. When holes form in his spandex outfit, they reveal rotting flesh, and worms can escape to attack his opponent.

That's right, this guy is undead. He and his armies had been slain by the real UFO-Man's race eons ago, and he had been dead ever since. However, his body had somehow been mostly preserved, and the revival of his... equivalent to the brain... had allowed him to create blobs from a distant planet, which in turn became the Kaiju that UFO-Man and the Girls had been fighting. His body, however, had remained dead until just recently, which is why he hadn't come out himself to wreak havoc until now.

His real power, however, is with the aforementioned crystal ball. After taking out first, Tsubomi, and then, Silk, the latter Girl is absorbed into the ball, where she is surrounded naked by an imaginary audience. Now it's Vivienne's turn to fight, but the demon-man that they're facing feeds off of Silk's M.O.E. by rubbing at his own core (his equivalent to masturbating). This is how he is able to lock up Vivienne's M.O.E., giving him full control over her body and mind.

Katsuo (Mon Colle Knights): We saved the worst for last. And it's also the longest of them all. If I were to compare this to an AVGN video, said video would be Part 1 of his Batman multi-review, and this fic description would be the equivalent to his long, scathing review for Batman Forever on the Super NES.

Yeah, I've wanted to do such a fic as this one for a while now. It's common for male characters in a number of anime series to get beat up and/or humiliated by girls, and Love Hina is one of the most notable titles where this applies. Girls Bravo is even worse: In that series, we have a male protagonist who is bullied by a bunch of girls, and develops "girl-phobia" and allergic reactions from being touched by females. But in this fic, we have Katsuo, who undergoes so much abuse from girls that he joins a gang and begins kidnapping and torturing girls.

Phase 1: Katsuo's early life, living with his mother Midori in New York. This focuses on the various ways he had been abused, humiliated, and manipulated by girls.

Phase 2: He's had enough of the shit, and joins a gang of boys. By doing so, he and his newfound buddies roam the streets or the hallways looking for prey. For any captives that didn't necessarily pick on him, he'll give them a choice to either rat someone out or suffer anyway. For those he recognizes as former enemies, and especially the one who started it all, there's no way out. The stuff he thinks up to subject them to is graphic, to say as little as possible.

Phase 3: Midori and Katsuo return to Japan. Nothing important happens while they're living there back with Ichirobei and Rockna, but then will come...

Phase 4: The entire Hiragi family have moved to Fort Edeeshkla in Mon World, to assist the Cult of McKnight during the war that only started with Redda's defeat. While Mondo and Rockna are glad to have saved Beginner and Luke on the way there, and to be visiting Mon World once again, Katsuo is pissed off about being forced to fight alongside a cult that he never joined (or at least that's how he sees it). Even though Beginner, who has no combat experience yet, is his natural favorite target, he doesn't hesitate to harass any of the other girls either. Because of his antisocial behavior, he is actually not allowed to go on missions with other Knights. But then...

Phase 5: Prince Eccentro and co. have found the Knights' headquarters. Katsuo takes this opportunity to leave his family and the Cult of McKnight behind. Eccentro and co. take him to the Castle of Eternity, rather than trying to get whatever Monster Items the Knights currently have. Because of their favor, Batch and Gluko become the only females that he tolerates.

After a meeting with the dark god Warp, Katsuo and his new friends go around, killing people and destroying towns in Mon World single-handedly, and even sometimes returning to New York to hunt down girls that previously were either in gang-free zones or were smart enough to avoid him. With the power of his Mystic Gene, he can create black light and send bat-like projectiles at prey, so as to kidnap them. Any girls he captures, whether in Mon World or Man World, end up in a dungeon within the Castle of Eternity where they are subjected to his renewed brutality.

Phase 6: The Mon Colle Knights have indeed been concerned about Katsuo and whatever he either might be doing or might be subjected to (they don't know which). However, having no whereabouts on him, they continue to liberate town after town in Mon World. At one time, their service reaps them a free stay at a local hot spring, and a break from fighting is one thing they could really use. It is no coincidence that Katsuo (who somehow knew about this) chose this time to attack them.

Now, here's another cliche for you: Lots of times, we have an anime male who walks in on a group of girls while they're bathing. This results in said girls calling him a pervert and beating the crap out of him. But in this scenario, a "pervert" is the last thing that Katsuo wants to come across as. So, while Eccentro and co. deal with the boys, Katsuo lurks unnoticed wherever the girls are bathing, lights up a molotov cocktail, and lobs it, mainly to grab their attention. On top of that, he also has some hostages, one of whom the girls identify as Lei Lei. That's right, he knows that Mondo and Rockna are friends with this girl, and chose her just to spite them.

A battle ensues between him and the girls, and he manages to hold his own against all nine female Knights. Somewhere along the line, though, the boys finish their fight with Eccentro, and come to assist the girls. This only causes Katsuo to create an expanding black sphere above the fight, which sucks all of them except himself out of existence.

So, instead of lying crippled in the water, Katsuo monologues about the fatal mistake his enemies made by trying to use him as one of their pawns. But then, he is spoken to telepathically by Warp, who warns him that that spell had been used before, and was escaped from.

Finale: After heeding Warp's warning, Katsuo returns to Fort Edeeshkla, and destroys it all by himself, using only the power of his Mystic Gene. He awaits the Mon Colle Knights, who he was told were not truly defeated. Once they start, he will summon a monster, saying his own equivalent to Mondo and Rockna's phrases as he prepares to fight them. This time, the good guys will prevail.

Once the fight ends, Katsuo is unconscious on the ground, but awakens to find Professor McKnight in front of him. He tries to strangle McKnight, but is forced down. Unable to put up any more of a fight, he finally listens to what his family and McKnight want to say to him. As it turns out, though, they only wanted to help him overcome his violent phase, but couldn't get through to him because of his resistance. Whether he wanted to fight alongside the Knights would have been his choice entirely. After finally being able to reason with him, the Hiragi family returns home for the time being to forget about the ordeal that they had just been through.

Okay, after having just recently ranted about both Felidae and Magical Girl Control Act, you might think me to be hypocritical about wanting to write that. The difference, though, is that Katsuo does not run some corrupt government, and he and his cohorts do not make up an entire society. If someone wrote a story about a single individual or group who goes around killing Magical Girls, then I'd consider that better than an entire nation or society that persecutes them.

Oh, and before you say I seem to have a double-standard between what one sex can do to the other, it's not the fact itself of girls berating or abusing guys that I'm sick of; it's the fact that there's so many more instances of such a situation being that way, and hardly any instances where this is reversed. And that's what I'm trying to bastardize, not the Mon Colle Knights anime itself.

Date: 2019-07-12 11:09 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Chelle:

Oh, and before you say I seem to have a double-standard between what one sex can do to the other, it's not the fact itself of girls berating or abusing guys that I'm sick of; it's the fact that there's so many more instances of such a situation being that way, and hardly any instances where this is reversed. And that's what I'm trying to bastardize.

But it is hypocrite. You cannot fight something by doing the same thing yourself and justify it by saying : someone else did it first, I'm just evening out the odds/proving something, so it's okay when I do it. That didn't work for Zaha either, did it? Also, retributing comical beat-ups with full-out, life affecting tortures? Not exactly even.

Outside of comedy fiction (there's drama, there's romance, there's horror, science fiction, psychology, thriller, detective etc) and in reality itself, it's not common at all.

Concerning the bath scene cliche, I'll say it again: those comedy scenes are written by men, men who can't imagine women as anything but morons who resort to violence on instinct. Such men find those scenes funny because they can't believe women would ever have such power in reality. By Carl Jung's Anima structure, they view women in the lowest stage : "Eve, named for the Genesis account of Adam and Eve. It deals with the emergence of a male's object of desire, yet simultaneously generalizes all females as evil and powerless.". Therefore you can't fight it by bastardizing it, since it already is a bastardized version of something. Not all women are batter-happy time bombs in reality.

Whether or not your fic is going to come across as sexist depends on how you write it. If the girls actually would respond in a stereotypically stupid way, then it would make you as author appear as agreeing with Katsuo's opinion on women. What happens to the girls he locks in his dungeon after he loosens up at the end? You say they go home, so those imprisoned girls will be left to starve or something? Nice. Is there any particular reason why only girls harassed him in stage 1? In reality both girls and boys bully, though the ways vary, so why were only girls picking on him?

Oh well, you already admitted anyway you're writing it as revenge, not character exploration or anything like that. If abuse turns you on, fine. I'm just annoyed with the way you're trying to justify it.

That aside, how can he lurk on them without being noticed? By the end of the anime, Rokuna's sixth sense is no longer limited to just monsters and Katsuo sounds like a huge clutter of angst so she'd notice him from miles away.
And how would Count C ever be capable of going around and killing people? He may be a jerk, but once he's faced with the gritty reality of death he probably wouldn't be able to do it again.

Date: 2019-07-12 11:11 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Jake (known on LiveJournal as unorthodox_du):

I'm not him, so I'm not going to deal with most of this.

Still.

What did you mean, when you mentioned Shinzo? I don't get it.

Date: 2019-07-12 11:11 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Chelle:

Oh, Shinzo doesn't have anything to do with this, it's just that it's a show I used to like only to realize it's hypocrite in the way it presents certain stuff, I was more talking to myself there.

Date: 2019-07-12 11:12 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Chelle:

Also, from a story-telling POV, the excuse of your anti-hero fails. Setting aside it makes no sense only girls would be excessively cruel to him for no reason (you never mention why they picked on him, and even then) bullying alone does not make people complete abusive monsters. Bullying tends to make people withdrawn and secluded from society. Can't you think up a more credible explanation?

Second, why is he so ridiculously powerful, isn't he a human?

Date: 2019-07-12 11:13 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Chelle:

Oh, and I just remembered another thing. You're in the wrong genre. The "men-bashing" you refer to occurs in cartoons, sitcoms and harem comedies. You're not writing a comedy, you're not subverting any of its tropes. You're writing in the fantasy genre, which without contest is the most sexist genre against women anyway. If you really wanna subvert the stereotypes, you should write a comedy to turns those tropes around.

What you do with Katsuo is something called Villain Sue (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/VillainSue). You identify with Katsuo and use him as a device to live out your fantasies and get revenge for the perceived injustice you see, and you forget to make sense while doing so.

Hm, in tandem with realizing good old Shinzo is a bigoted piece of crap and having to cope with its stupid fandom, I'm getting really sick the last few months with fans taking revenge on girls or anything else. In fact, considering how long this is going to be muling around in my head, thanks for ruining my day, especially that hypocritical last paragraph.

Date: 2019-07-12 11:15 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Chelle:

It's not that you rant about it on your blog that makes you hypocritical and I completely get it when a favorite genre features something you hate as a common factor and getting frustrated about that. It's that you seem to want to write the fanfic to pick on girls in order to supposedly "bastardize" the trope of picking on guys, meaning you do exactly what you criticize those shows for.

As for Columbine and similar. They snap, they were not mentally clear and can't tell right from wrong anymore or consider the consequences of their actions. The result is an explosion of violence, but as you describe Katsuo he starts acting calculating and precise in his revenge, well enough not to be caught by the cops despite committing in-the-street felonies. It's not strange to assume that someone goes down the wrong path when exposed to bad influence, but to blame it entirely on girls bullying him just doesn't work. Did he meet the wrong people somewhere along the line or was exposed to someone's twisted philosophy? You don't mention anything like that, nothing about the conditions. You just say "girls bullied him" as if that's enough for an explanation.

"Evil"? Dub stupidity aside, that's pretty blatant. Why does he coincidentally have that element?

You missed explaining why only girls bullied him and not guys. You also missed explaining why Rokuna's sixth sense does not work, which has nothing to do with Katsuo knowing about it or not : she should have noticed him and wouldn't be in a bath, but telling the others and preparing for his arrival.

Unrelated, since you mentioned Aspergers I recalled another ASer and noticed it's pretty much true : autists can communicate better with other autists. You're a lot more coherent than neurotypical folks I've talked to.

Date: 2019-07-12 11:19 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Also, until that part of the fic, even she and McKnight wouldn't be able to locate him, as detection of an approaching enemy is different than tracking down anyone in particular.
Why not? She could sense Sir Angstalot approaching pretty early on, she did start out with empathy after all. Hm, I should make an oversight of the development of Rokuna's sixth sense sometime, it's advances gradually as the series proceeds (unless Miyuki is writing the episode, they tend to forget about it, amongst other things).

I didn't ask why he was not arrested. I used the fact he was able to retain enough awareness to avoid arrest to point out his behavior is not the same as the kids who snapped after bullying, therefore just bullying is not enough excuse to justify his behavior. There'd need to be more factors to fuel this particular type of sadism.

Taking the idea from another fic doesn't mean it suddenly becomes logical that only girls bully him, so don't bother copy-pasting it. Besides, I know what bullying is like already and I'd rather not read about it at the moment.
A far more logical approach would be to have him start out with a bad base. All we know of Hiiragi's wife is that she left her husband for not getting enough attention and she left her child with the person she knew to be neglectful, didn't even stay for her sake. If she's a bad mother, then that might lead Katsuo to start seeing the bad things girls to him with magnified severity when compared to guys bullying him.

Yeah, but do you have to call it Evil? The Japanese "Ma" translates best to demon, sometimes Curse is used to refer to the dark magic, but never Aku (evil). Ma is a type of supernatural being (there's youma, shinma and akuma for example) who are a destructive force, but not per say evil. I know you go by the dub dictionary, but calling it "Evil" sounds so silly, especially since the whole element so obviously isn't fueled by actual morality.

All makes sense except the Sonic reference.

Date: 2019-07-12 11:20 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Ah, like that. Okay.

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