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dmxratedHere's the thread I was talking about recently, which got locked:
McKnight:
For anyone who is into babyfics, I recently posted a Sonic the Hedgehog fanfic called The Furrysitter's Club. Here's the summary:
Another Eggman battle takes place inside the Crystal Egg Zone, which leaves all males crippled. Exposure to the Chaos Emeralds turns Sonic, Tails, Knuckles, and Shadow into babies until their bodies restabilize.
http://www.fanfiction.net/s/3344822/1/
Just to let you guys know, this fic is open-ended, and I don't know currently where it will be going. If anyone's got ideas for stuff to happen along the way, please share it with me here. Thanks.
Thalzon:
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bucky o'hare:
"Into babyfics...". hahah... huh? The Internet, these days.
Smoke:
I knew I saved this image for a reason.
Aethis:
Brain...anymore no... working...
McKnight:
Folks, if you're not interested in the fanfic, don't bother posting here. I brought it up to collect suggestions from anyone who is interested, not to collect flames. If you think such an idea for a fanfic is stupid, you're entitled to that opinion; just don't participate on this thread. It's not like I'm the only one who likes babyfics; well, maybe on this forum I am, but there are other babyfic fans on Fanfiction.net, and LordBudFerg is even more of one than I am.
Aethis:
McKnight wrote:
Folks, if you're not interested in the fanfic, don't bother posting here. I brought it up to collect suggestions from anyone who is interested, not to collect flames. If you think such an idea for a fanfic is stupid, you're entitled to that opinion; just don't participate on this thread. It's not like I'm the only one who likes babyfics; well, maybe on this forum I am, but there are other babyfic fans on Fanfiction.net, and LordBudFerg is even more of one than I am.
If you're not interested in criticism/flames, then don't post on forums. Also. FAILGET for using references to the crappy FOX cartoon, among other things.
Oh, and welcome to the internet.
McKnight:
(There, I changed the title of this thread slightly.)
I'd be interested in constructive criticism, but I'm not here to collect flames from people (no matter how funny they happen to be). And no, I'm not pissed; I'm just saying that I didn't ask "Let's see who can flame this as hard or comically as possible."
solis:
McKnight wrote:
Folks, if you're not interested in the fanfic, don't bother posting here.
It's called a reply genius. You post it on the internet, it's going to get a response. Any opinion and or view of any thing/item/person is game for mockery if it's retarded, just like anything is good enough for praise if it's worthy of it.
McKnight wrote:
If you think such an idea for a fanfic is stupid, you're entitled to that opinion.
McKnight wrote:
just don't participate on this thread.
....Ok.
McKnight wrote:
It's not like I'm the only one who likes babyfics; well, maybe on this forum I am.
I don't think it's because it was a Babyfanfic so to speak. But more so a Sonic fanfic which there is an UNGODLY amount of on the internet.
Blitz Lunar:
Bandwagon jumping.
Anyway, for a more mature response...
Quote:
but there are other babyfic fans on Fanfiction.net
Great! Then we don't have to hear about it here, then, do we? This sorta interest is very uh... "specific" I would say. Thus you aren't going to really attract anything but humoured remarks in most places you post about it. If the majority are at odds with your interest... too bad!
Above all else, this is a video game music site. Topics which deviate from that too much are frowned upon as-is, let alone ones which are of rather cult following (not that VGM isn't, but you know, relatively speaking...)
I'd also make a distinction between flaming and poking fun here. No-one is violently, actively persecuting you, they're just having a giggle. I guess that's not nice, but I suppose that's the risk of making obscure interests known.
Thalzon:
To add to Lunar's comment, we just recently went through "The Sonic fandom is full of crazies" bit. Then you came along.
So, yeah, good for you for reinforcing the fandom's image.
solis:
This would probably work better for you if you post this at a forum which is Sega or anime oriented. You aren't going to find much of that here.
I think just about everyone but me and a few others is going through the whole "Sony sucks - Wii awesome" trend.
In other words, it helps to know the forum's over all cultural opinions of the things they talk about.
In this case, MANY forums members do not like the bastardization of the sonic series.
Smoke:
solis wrote:
This would probably work better for you if you post this at a forum which is Sega or anime oriented. You aren't going to find much of that here.
I think just about everyone but me and a few others is going through the whole "Sony sucks - Wii awesome" trend.
In other words, it helps to know the forum's over all cultural opinions of the things they talk about.
In this case, MANY forums members do not like the bastardization of the sonic series.
I'd say the responses would have been similar if it was another series, and it's more aimed at the fact that it's a babyfic(And the use of the term "furry" doesn't help much either)
At least that's my point of view here.
Slightly more on topic: The writing of the actual fanfic isn't all too good. It's not a grammar or spelling thing, but much more of a style thing, especially in the way discussions and descriptions are handled.
Not to offend, but it reads like a 12 year old's writing(Which is oddly enough how a lot of fanfiction reads)
McKnight:
Smoke wrote:
Slightly more on topic: The writing of the actual fanfic isn't all too good. It's not a grammar or spelling thing, but much more of a style thing, especially in the way discussions and descriptions are handled.
Not to offend, but it reads like a 12 year old's writing(Which is oddly enough how a lot of fanfiction reads)
Smoke, you're the first person to criticize this fanfic constructively, and I appreciate it a lot. If you don't mind, I'd like to know how you would've written the dialogue and descriptions throughout the fic. And I don't mean just one example; I mean, everything you would write better than I did. Would you do that for me, even if through email? Please?
solis:
Smoke wrote:
I'd say the responses would have been similar if it was another series, and it's more aimed at the fact that it's a babyfic(And the use of the term "furry" doesn't help much either)
I'm not too hip with all of the terms on the net today. But isn't a Babyfic a fan fiction about characters as children, or am i thinking of something else than what it really is all together?
McKnight:
solis wrote:
I'm not too hip with all of the terms on the net today. But isn't a Babyfic a fan fiction about characters as children, or am i thinking of something else than what it really is all together?
The term "babyfic" is used to refer to any fanfic featuring babies, not just children. Many of them do feature the transformation of canon characters into infants, but they can also include non-canon characters that are babies to begin with. The term "childfic" or "kidfic" might be used if the characters are reduced to, say, five or six years old, but in a transformation-based babyfic such as mine, the males are reduced to babies. Not just little kids; babies. Notice the vocabulary difference here.
Smoke:
McKnight wrote:
Smoke wrote:
Slightly more on topic: The writing of the actual fanfic isn't all too good. It's not a grammar or spelling thing, but much more of a style thing, especially in the way discussions and descriptions are handled.
Not to offend, but it reads like a 12 year old's writing(Which is oddly enough how a lot of fanfiction reads)
Smoke, you're the first person to criticize this fanfic constructively, and I appreciate it a lot. If you don't mind, I'd like to know how you would've written the dialogue and descriptions throughout the fic. And I don't mean just one example; I mean, everything you would write better than I did. Would you do that for me, even if through email? Please?
I'm a reader, not a writer. The best advice I could give is to read some good literature and pay close attention to the style used in those. The main issue with your dialog bits is that they're rather static, and repeat the same pattern over and over again("words", he said) Vary it up a little.
For actual examples of GOOD fanfiction, look here. Yes, it's mostly Megaman. But it's written well.
solis wrote:
Smoke wrote:
I'd say the responses would have been similar if it was another series, and it's more aimed at the fact that it's a babyfic(And the use of the term "furry" doesn't help much either)
I'm not too hip with all of the terms on the net today. But isn't a Babyfic a fan fiction about characters as children, or am i thinking of something else than what it really is all together?
Well, basically yes. However, it's often associated with this kind of stuff, and more negatively with this kind of stuff(Warning: Not for all ages)
GeminiSaint:
Babyfics... well, that's a fanfiction niche I didn't even know existed until just now.
Anyway, I bet they can be countered with Oldmanfics! Just turn Sonic and gang into 90-year-old guys and have them collect Chaos emeralds for... I dunno. Post over.
NUTCASE71733:
I really don't see why whenever a fanfic is mentioned her that everyone assums it's bad. Sure there are some poorly made works out there, but I've seen many good works that far outnumber the poor ones.
I guess people here are looking in the wrong places.
billybandit:
McKnight wrote:
Crystal Egg Zone
Nice to see that zone get a mention
Smoke:
NUTCASE71733 wrote:
I really don't see why whenever a fanfic is mentioned her that everyone assums it's bad. Sure there are some poorly made works out there, but I've seen many good works that far outnumber the poor ones.
I guess people here are looking in the wrong places.
Please go look at Fanfiction.net. Pick 50 random fanfics from various subjects, and pay no attention to the title(Or anything else, to assure that it's truly random). Read the first chapter of each one.
You'll very soon notice that a LOT of fanfiction isn't all that good, and usually mainly interests people because it's fanfiction(as in: omg new stories with characters I know)
Anyone can write bad fanfiction. It takes work and dedication, as well as talent, to write good fanfiction.
Same goes for a lot of other (artistic) things by the way.
NUTCASE71733:
You almost said the same thing I said, therfore missing my point entirely.
I know there are bad fanfics out there (I've skimmed through several, trust me) . Some of them can be easily corrected by proper use of paragraph spacing.
Some stories can't be helped because some authors happen to be dyslexic, but said stories are good in terms of plot regardless.
Some people just don't know what thye're doing because they think the internet doesn't require proper grammer.
I know there are bad fics out there like any person who reads them. But I have noticed excellent fanfics out there, some with a few grammer and spelling problems, but are still real good regardless. An excellent example is the story 'The N Wars' made by Black Phantom, which is one of the best game fanfictions ever made.
Sure, we may never have a properly written fanfic everytime we check the various fanfiction websites, but that doesn't mean they all are bad.
Smoke:
I'm just saying the bad fanfics far outnumber the good ones. Your comment was pretty much the exact opposite. With "bad" I don't mean spelling and grammar issues, just bad plots, use and overuse of deus ex machina, stylistic issues, straying too far from the actual characters, Mary Sue appearances(Self-insertion), and just generally anything that makes a written work bad.
Of course, fanfiction quality is a rather subjective thing most of the time, and what I would find to be boring, cliched or badly-written might just be entertaining to you.
NUTCASE71733:
Well, we all have our oppinions, but I gotta comment on the Mary-Sue thing: Sometimes if an author knows what he/she's doing, that aspect may actually turn out well in the end. I've read a couple of fanfics like that, and they were actually pretty good despite the self insertion detail.
McKnight:
Two of you participants on this thread are getting off topic. Just a reminder, the topic for this thread is the fanfic that I've presented. Even if no one has suggestions as to what could happen in the fic, let's at the very least stay focused on talking about the fanfic. Okay?
Powerlord:
I'm going to abuse my nifty magic Administration powers and lock this topic before it degenerates any further.
McKnight:
For anyone who is into babyfics, I recently posted a Sonic the Hedgehog fanfic called The Furrysitter's Club. Here's the summary:
Another Eggman battle takes place inside the Crystal Egg Zone, which leaves all males crippled. Exposure to the Chaos Emeralds turns Sonic, Tails, Knuckles, and Shadow into babies until their bodies restabilize.
http://www.fanfiction.net/s/3344822/1/
Just to let you guys know, this fic is open-ended, and I don't know currently where it will be going. If anyone's got ideas for stuff to happen along the way, please share it with me here. Thanks.
Thalzon:
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bucky o'hare:
"Into babyfics...". hahah... huh? The Internet, these days.
Smoke:
I knew I saved this image for a reason.
Aethis:
Brain...anymore no... working...
McKnight:
Folks, if you're not interested in the fanfic, don't bother posting here. I brought it up to collect suggestions from anyone who is interested, not to collect flames. If you think such an idea for a fanfic is stupid, you're entitled to that opinion; just don't participate on this thread. It's not like I'm the only one who likes babyfics; well, maybe on this forum I am, but there are other babyfic fans on Fanfiction.net, and LordBudFerg is even more of one than I am.
Aethis:
McKnight wrote:
Folks, if you're not interested in the fanfic, don't bother posting here. I brought it up to collect suggestions from anyone who is interested, not to collect flames. If you think such an idea for a fanfic is stupid, you're entitled to that opinion; just don't participate on this thread. It's not like I'm the only one who likes babyfics; well, maybe on this forum I am, but there are other babyfic fans on Fanfiction.net, and LordBudFerg is even more of one than I am.
If you're not interested in criticism/flames, then don't post on forums. Also. FAILGET for using references to the crappy FOX cartoon, among other things.
Oh, and welcome to the internet.
McKnight:
(There, I changed the title of this thread slightly.)
I'd be interested in constructive criticism, but I'm not here to collect flames from people (no matter how funny they happen to be). And no, I'm not pissed; I'm just saying that I didn't ask "Let's see who can flame this as hard or comically as possible."
solis:
McKnight wrote:
Folks, if you're not interested in the fanfic, don't bother posting here.
It's called a reply genius. You post it on the internet, it's going to get a response. Any opinion and or view of any thing/item/person is game for mockery if it's retarded, just like anything is good enough for praise if it's worthy of it.
McKnight wrote:
If you think such an idea for a fanfic is stupid, you're entitled to that opinion.
McKnight wrote:
just don't participate on this thread.
....Ok.
McKnight wrote:
It's not like I'm the only one who likes babyfics; well, maybe on this forum I am.
I don't think it's because it was a Babyfanfic so to speak. But more so a Sonic fanfic which there is an UNGODLY amount of on the internet.
Blitz Lunar:
Bandwagon jumping.
Anyway, for a more mature response...
Quote:
but there are other babyfic fans on Fanfiction.net
Great! Then we don't have to hear about it here, then, do we? This sorta interest is very uh... "specific" I would say. Thus you aren't going to really attract anything but humoured remarks in most places you post about it. If the majority are at odds with your interest... too bad!
Above all else, this is a video game music site. Topics which deviate from that too much are frowned upon as-is, let alone ones which are of rather cult following (not that VGM isn't, but you know, relatively speaking...)
I'd also make a distinction between flaming and poking fun here. No-one is violently, actively persecuting you, they're just having a giggle. I guess that's not nice, but I suppose that's the risk of making obscure interests known.
Thalzon:
To add to Lunar's comment, we just recently went through "The Sonic fandom is full of crazies" bit. Then you came along.
So, yeah, good for you for reinforcing the fandom's image.
solis:
This would probably work better for you if you post this at a forum which is Sega or anime oriented. You aren't going to find much of that here.
I think just about everyone but me and a few others is going through the whole "Sony sucks - Wii awesome" trend.
In other words, it helps to know the forum's over all cultural opinions of the things they talk about.
In this case, MANY forums members do not like the bastardization of the sonic series.
Smoke:
solis wrote:
This would probably work better for you if you post this at a forum which is Sega or anime oriented. You aren't going to find much of that here.
I think just about everyone but me and a few others is going through the whole "Sony sucks - Wii awesome" trend.
In other words, it helps to know the forum's over all cultural opinions of the things they talk about.
In this case, MANY forums members do not like the bastardization of the sonic series.
I'd say the responses would have been similar if it was another series, and it's more aimed at the fact that it's a babyfic(And the use of the term "furry" doesn't help much either)
At least that's my point of view here.
Slightly more on topic: The writing of the actual fanfic isn't all too good. It's not a grammar or spelling thing, but much more of a style thing, especially in the way discussions and descriptions are handled.
Not to offend, but it reads like a 12 year old's writing(Which is oddly enough how a lot of fanfiction reads)
McKnight:
Smoke wrote:
Slightly more on topic: The writing of the actual fanfic isn't all too good. It's not a grammar or spelling thing, but much more of a style thing, especially in the way discussions and descriptions are handled.
Not to offend, but it reads like a 12 year old's writing(Which is oddly enough how a lot of fanfiction reads)
Smoke, you're the first person to criticize this fanfic constructively, and I appreciate it a lot. If you don't mind, I'd like to know how you would've written the dialogue and descriptions throughout the fic. And I don't mean just one example; I mean, everything you would write better than I did. Would you do that for me, even if through email? Please?
solis:
Smoke wrote:
I'd say the responses would have been similar if it was another series, and it's more aimed at the fact that it's a babyfic(And the use of the term "furry" doesn't help much either)
I'm not too hip with all of the terms on the net today. But isn't a Babyfic a fan fiction about characters as children, or am i thinking of something else than what it really is all together?
McKnight:
solis wrote:
I'm not too hip with all of the terms on the net today. But isn't a Babyfic a fan fiction about characters as children, or am i thinking of something else than what it really is all together?
The term "babyfic" is used to refer to any fanfic featuring babies, not just children. Many of them do feature the transformation of canon characters into infants, but they can also include non-canon characters that are babies to begin with. The term "childfic" or "kidfic" might be used if the characters are reduced to, say, five or six years old, but in a transformation-based babyfic such as mine, the males are reduced to babies. Not just little kids; babies. Notice the vocabulary difference here.
Smoke:
McKnight wrote:
Smoke wrote:
Slightly more on topic: The writing of the actual fanfic isn't all too good. It's not a grammar or spelling thing, but much more of a style thing, especially in the way discussions and descriptions are handled.
Not to offend, but it reads like a 12 year old's writing(Which is oddly enough how a lot of fanfiction reads)
Smoke, you're the first person to criticize this fanfic constructively, and I appreciate it a lot. If you don't mind, I'd like to know how you would've written the dialogue and descriptions throughout the fic. And I don't mean just one example; I mean, everything you would write better than I did. Would you do that for me, even if through email? Please?
I'm a reader, not a writer. The best advice I could give is to read some good literature and pay close attention to the style used in those. The main issue with your dialog bits is that they're rather static, and repeat the same pattern over and over again("words", he said) Vary it up a little.
For actual examples of GOOD fanfiction, look here. Yes, it's mostly Megaman. But it's written well.
solis wrote:
Smoke wrote:
I'd say the responses would have been similar if it was another series, and it's more aimed at the fact that it's a babyfic(And the use of the term "furry" doesn't help much either)
I'm not too hip with all of the terms on the net today. But isn't a Babyfic a fan fiction about characters as children, or am i thinking of something else than what it really is all together?
Well, basically yes. However, it's often associated with this kind of stuff, and more negatively with this kind of stuff(Warning: Not for all ages)
GeminiSaint:
Babyfics... well, that's a fanfiction niche I didn't even know existed until just now.
Anyway, I bet they can be countered with Oldmanfics! Just turn Sonic and gang into 90-year-old guys and have them collect Chaos emeralds for... I dunno. Post over.
NUTCASE71733:
I really don't see why whenever a fanfic is mentioned her that everyone assums it's bad. Sure there are some poorly made works out there, but I've seen many good works that far outnumber the poor ones.
I guess people here are looking in the wrong places.
billybandit:
McKnight wrote:
Crystal Egg Zone
Nice to see that zone get a mention
Smoke:
NUTCASE71733 wrote:
I really don't see why whenever a fanfic is mentioned her that everyone assums it's bad. Sure there are some poorly made works out there, but I've seen many good works that far outnumber the poor ones.
I guess people here are looking in the wrong places.
Please go look at Fanfiction.net. Pick 50 random fanfics from various subjects, and pay no attention to the title(Or anything else, to assure that it's truly random). Read the first chapter of each one.
You'll very soon notice that a LOT of fanfiction isn't all that good, and usually mainly interests people because it's fanfiction(as in: omg new stories with characters I know)
Anyone can write bad fanfiction. It takes work and dedication, as well as talent, to write good fanfiction.
Same goes for a lot of other (artistic) things by the way.
NUTCASE71733:
You almost said the same thing I said, therfore missing my point entirely.
I know there are bad fanfics out there (I've skimmed through several, trust me) . Some of them can be easily corrected by proper use of paragraph spacing.
Some stories can't be helped because some authors happen to be dyslexic, but said stories are good in terms of plot regardless.
Some people just don't know what thye're doing because they think the internet doesn't require proper grammer.
I know there are bad fics out there like any person who reads them. But I have noticed excellent fanfics out there, some with a few grammer and spelling problems, but are still real good regardless. An excellent example is the story 'The N Wars' made by Black Phantom, which is one of the best game fanfictions ever made.
Sure, we may never have a properly written fanfic everytime we check the various fanfiction websites, but that doesn't mean they all are bad.
Smoke:
I'm just saying the bad fanfics far outnumber the good ones. Your comment was pretty much the exact opposite. With "bad" I don't mean spelling and grammar issues, just bad plots, use and overuse of deus ex machina, stylistic issues, straying too far from the actual characters, Mary Sue appearances(Self-insertion), and just generally anything that makes a written work bad.
Of course, fanfiction quality is a rather subjective thing most of the time, and what I would find to be boring, cliched or badly-written might just be entertaining to you.
NUTCASE71733:
Well, we all have our oppinions, but I gotta comment on the Mary-Sue thing: Sometimes if an author knows what he/she's doing, that aspect may actually turn out well in the end. I've read a couple of fanfics like that, and they were actually pretty good despite the self insertion detail.
McKnight:
Two of you participants on this thread are getting off topic. Just a reminder, the topic for this thread is the fanfic that I've presented. Even if no one has suggestions as to what could happen in the fic, let's at the very least stay focused on talking about the fanfic. Okay?
Powerlord:
I'm going to abuse my nifty magic Administration powers and lock this topic before it degenerates any further.